People. It is time to wake from your slumber. You will not have freedom, liberty or justice until you all become protesters. Peaceful, unmasked protesters. It is your life. Take it back.
Wake up. Itisus
Wow this is so educational i never heard of this tactic before. Thank you for the knowledge, the gentleman in the suit seems to have figured out a great defence against them
Sadly, I'm not surprised by what we've seen here. We are always on the look out for it at demonstrations. The more of this kind of publicity we can air about these tactics the better. I'm spreading it liberally on this side of the pond cos I don't think that the police in the U.K. are immune from this kind of behaviour. What you guys do today, we do tomorrow. Strangely, this holds most true of the bad stuff!!
Pulling pages from the US playbooks... so very very sad. I am going to pass this on everywhere that I can... knowledge is always more powerful than a rock!
Scary thought is... where does it all end?
"Wake up!"
~Rev
very true quaker sal, at the last in a series of actions against DSEi arm fairs held in East London, the last demo was at the Dorchester hotel; where the fatcat 'masters of war' spent the money they make from buying and selling weapons on a meal. There was one bloke there who when i told the police who were hassling us, that if they wanted to uphold socpa, there were 'serious organised criminals' dining on the profits of death, that he was a 'police', and if he wanted to 'act' he should arrest them, not keep filming us. The guy chatted to me about s.o.c.p.a. and did not seem to know what it was,etc, or understand that it was no good to just get the armsfair moved, but that the whole economic capitalist system whereby a few parasites live in luxury at the cost of the labour and often destitution and unneccessary and preventable death of the majority. Yet he said he had been protesting for untold years, but also did not know about the criminal justice act, update of anti-terrorism, and other laws affecting protesters. Yet he was seen moving up and down inside the railings, and me and another person told me they, heard him saying lets bust across the line and across the road and batter the polis and get the bastards on the other side,etc hhmm, tad suspicious maybe. also this definetely happened one time i was in the bloc, in scotland, where a polis was un-masked, and had no polis line to run back too. I did not recognise him personally, but trust one or two that said they did.
mich kj10680@y
All right, so police officers are instigating riots..? Present unequivocal proof and I might buy into these so called facts.
However, any individual instigated by these actions is certainly not an idividual who revokes violence to achieve his (or her for that matter, let's not even approach the gender subject, please, I know you leftists are going to latch onto this...) goals are certainly nothing more than a poorly disguised terrorist who in his stupidity reacts to and follows instigatory action and descends into violence... Why? Well due to his actions, his goal was most certainly violent uproar, othervice his ideals should have kept him within the boundaries of a peaceful demonstration..
My point in this matter is, whether or not a certain clique of demonstrators turn to violence, other demonstrators are bound by their existence as human beings to withhold from these actions lest they join the mindless mob who deserves no more than imprisonment..
Mind what you are, keep your actions peaceful and don't let yourselves descend to the state of animals.. Should you try to seek empathy for your actions, I certainly hope that any person in their right mind shall meet you with utter contempt..
There is no conspiratcy, there are just a great load of ignorant idiots..
Furthermore this conspiracy theorist (Yes, I'm calling him feckin' crazy) makes president Bush seem like an altar boy..
The boots are the same on the cops and the provocateurs...also the Quebec police ADMITTED in Canadian news to using provocateurs
Neeker: "However, any individual instigated by these actions is certainly not an idividual who revokes violence to achieve his (or her...) goals are certainly nothing more than a poorly disguised terrorist who in his stupidity reacts to and follows instigatory action and descends into violence... Why?"
First, please stop abusing English. I think I understand your point, and though I don't agree, it's a valid one. The preemptive jabs at "leftists" aren't necessary either, you can take those out while you're proofreading next time. (Yes, I understand that I'm being a bit of a hypocrite by my remarks. I think you earned it.)
Terrorism is defined as: 1. The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation. --Jefferson. [1913 Webster] 2. The practise of coercing governments to accede to political demands by committing violence on civilian targets; any similar use of violence to achieve goals. [PJC] Or, as the Marine Corps defines it, Terrorism is the use of violence and fear to achieve political objectives. Terrorism implies planned use of force and/or fear. Giving in to violent urges in the heat of the moment does not make one a terrorist. Those masked people (it doesn't matter if they were police or not) could be considered terrorists, as they planned on causing a violent scene.
The guy in charge of that protest didn't take the bait. He didn't get violent. His actions stopped the potential for violence before it happened. His goal was (probably) to get the word out about this issue, and he did it despite the provocateurs' attempt at escalating the situation.
I agree, those that join in the violence are no different than those that start it. Whether or not they deserve imprisonment...well, I think that's a different issue. Peace is good, but unfortunately, sometimes violence can become necessary. I don't feel contempt, just frustration that the situation in question escalated so far. I'm not comfortable talking about this further, as I don't have the energy or the evidence to write about it intelligently. Sorry.
I also agree that there is no conspiracy. On average, people are too stupid for that sort of thing. If anything it's a subconscious or, in some cases, conscious shift in our society towards a more closed-minded state.
I couldn't find anywhere that the guy in the film said 'conspiracy'. It's a word that provides an easy get out for people who aren't prepared to deal with the evidence.
Don't you get it?! No one has "to take the bait" just as long as no one discovers the provocateurs. Then the police have cause to jump the line and break up the demonstration. That is the goal.
This is excellent information and I thank you. I would have never even imagined this going on. We must take back the country from our government now!!
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